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Yogev Elkahar
Sep 26
Hi everybody!

I started using Tone gym this month and I love it, and have seen some big improvements 😄 Although, I am having trouble with the game Inversionist, where you need to identify the specific chord inversion. I'm still in level 1 so it shouldn't be that complicated, but yet I find it hard to distinguish the different feelings of every inversion.
Does somebody have any tips or ideas for better identification?
Thanks (:
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P M
Sep 26
Focus on the bass note. Make sure you hear nothing lower. Now identify the next note up from there and name the interval. Repeat these steps with each pair of notes, ascending in pitch each time. Write the stack of intervals that you get on a sheet of paper. That should be enough to name the chord. The more you do it, the easier it'll become and you will soon do it all in your head.
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Anna Małek
Sep 26
Hi, you can try this method:
sing the chord from the highest to lowest tone, if the chord sounds complete that is chord without inversion. If you feel that the chord is not complete try to add lower notes to make it sound whole - if there is one note to complete it's first inversion, if two - second inversion. For example, C major chord in 1st inversion is e, g and c1. Try to sing it from the highest note so: c1, g and e, your brain will try to fill the chord with another c to make it sound complete, and when you sing this chord from the top you will naturally add lower c. Hope I explained it well 😁
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Ely Oaks
Sep 26
Hi i am not an expert but this is the method that works for me to have some good results: listen how low the chord sounds. If its a C major chord and it sounds extremely low it‘s the 1st inversion. If it sounds medium low its the 2nd and if it sounds normal its the root. For an Aminor chord the root will sound pretty high and compared to the C major the first inversion of the a chord will sound similiar „low“ (because it‘s almost the same note order). Also you have those 3 jokers where you can listen to the notes individually. Take care where you hear the largest interval - the note after the large interval is the root note. So if you hear the large interval as the first interval it‘s the 2nd inversion, if you hear it from the second to third note it‘s the 1st inversion and if you hear no large interval at all its the root :)
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yooval mann
Sep 27
apologize to other members who have to see my copy&pasted advice over and over again, yet since ToneGym still does NOT have a dedicated "Tips" section for each game (like I have suggested more than once) I have to keep copy and paste the same advice for the same game over and over...
@Amit Fortus (wink to ya)

here goes:

First of all, the game should have had the rating "advanced"

1) So since this game is advanced I encourage you or I would recommend using a musical instrument or even an app on the phone like a virtual piano, don't fret and don't feel guilt about it, over time you will be able to drop this aid (promised)
2) use your instrument to detect the lowest note you hear (the bass)
3) observe the name of the given chord, play the chord for yourself if needed and observe its structure.
4) determine which degree of the chord does the bass represents
5) over time when it becomes easier to hear and separate the bass note, try to detect the next stage's bass by comparing it to the previous bass you heard, eventually that would enable you to forego the use of a musical instrument. But there's no rush.
6) this game requires you to sweat, decide on how much time you're willing to invest in it and then stick to the training religiously it doesn't matter if you finish a level or not but stick to the workout on a dedicated DAILY religious like routine
7) please report back on how do you do

also with regard to #7 no one has ever reported back to me whether this method worked for them, please do
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Archer Lee
Sep 27
I'm still using an instrument to help me disdinguish the inversions, and like you said , it takes time and requires a hell lot of time, so right now I kind of feels a little bit improvement . but still not so solid, still feels sometimes I just got luck to have chosen the right answer..
so guess that's the reason why no one reported back to you~
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yooval mann
Sep 27
good stuff Archer Lee, now are you following the step by step guide?
step #2 is to detect a single note, the pitch of the bass, are you able to use your instrument
to tell the bass?
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Yogev Elkahar
Sep 27
Thanks everyone for taking the time to help! I'll update you on which method worked for me 😊 @yooval mann @Archer Lee @Ely Oaks @Anna Małek @P M
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yooval mann
Sep 27
@Yogev Elkahar thanks in advance, just to be clear it's not a competition between the tippers, I hope one of the methods WILL work for ya,if you care to try the 7 step method I described here, please follow them in a consecutive order, one after the other, no skips.
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Archer Lee
Sep 28
Yes, I can get 8 out of 10, for most of the time~
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yooval mann
Sep 28
Excellent Archer Lee keep at it now just keep investing in it and keep me updated if over time you are getting better
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Archer Lee
Sep 29
I'll definitely inform you, if I get a big jump~~~ @Yooval Mann