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Francesco Rea
May 13, 2020
am I wrong or tonegym levels are way easier than Soundgym levels?
I am quite experienced in both fields but in Soundgym Level 13 is a nightmare, here seems so easy
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Juan Köping
May 13, 2020
In a learning point of view, i find the very slow difficulty progression adapted.
For a more experienced practice, this slow pace can surely be boring at first.
But don't you eventually get to a point where you're challenged ?
In the chord progression training, i'm more or less locked around level 10 ;), whereas the interval recognition goes very fast 10 levels a day.
Don't know if this is common, or if everyone has his own flaws.
Btw, thank you very much for mentionning Soundgym, this seems inreresting !
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David S
May 13, 2020
@Tony Quackston Thanks for the app recommendation, I'm excited to try it!
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Todd Page
May 13, 2020
I'm in total agreement, Francesco - like two different worlds. Never got even close to diamond ears in SoundGym.
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Todd Page
May 13, 2020
@Tony Quackston agreed as well. My patience is wearing thin. I don't think I'd go so far as to say the $50 or whatever I spent for a year wasn't well spent but I'm wishing things moved along faster regarding innovations. It's still early so I'm kinda waiting to see but it's getting a little stagnant here.....
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Ari Virtanen
May 14, 2020
For someone starting from scratch, the difficulty progression is more in balance. I would not like to see time limits, because i really still need to sing the notes and take my time to figure out the right answer. I think this is better for learning.
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Francesco Rea (author)
May 15, 2020
I actually prefer this method to say the truth, I mean, spending one month on the same level makes me a bit uncomfortable.
On the other hand I agree, for someone who had a bit of ear training practice (I wasn't even so good at it at school) Tonegym risks to be a bit boring at first, but letting the user choose the level to start with could be a valuable solution from my point of view.
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Francesco Rea (author)
May 15, 2020
Happy that so many people think this way like me btw, I was REALLY worried that my Eq skills were terrible!
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Jelle van Snek
May 15, 2020
what i realized with tonegym in for example the chordilus game.
every first level is really easy so when they put in aug for the first time or 7.
just did level 13 in one try where they introduced sus4 but the next 2 levels will probably be harder again
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Ant Lopez
May 15, 2020
Yeah, Tonegym is definitely waaaay easier, especially if you've been doing relative ear training for some time in the past.
I plateaued on Soundgym, can't level up on certain exercises for days, but I'm already at a point where I can efficiently recognise frequencies, compression, and reverb, so I unsubscribed.
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Ant Lopez
May 16, 2020
@Tony Quackston - While I totally agree with you that drills should have a time limit, I never find it to be a dealbreaker (at least for now). This app has been extremely beneficial for me as an ear training tool. For quite some time, I've been efficient at identifying intervals, but I really sucked at identifying scales and four note chords. So adding the workouts to my routine and drilling on things that I sucked at (5+ levels each day), has given me the progress that I needed in just a month and a half, of which I would have achieved in years of aimless ear training. Before Tonegym, I didn't really care about Harmonic Minor scale (or didn't pay much attention), now I can spell, hear and identify a Locrian Natural 6, Lydian #2 etc. which I've never even dreamed of knowing.
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Benjamin Jack
Sep 02, 2024
At GutarGym they took this one step further. Time limits and most games being easy to pass a level or more a day. I believe this leads to more consistent learning, keeps you motivated, and the time limit allows you to master things even more. Because people would lose TPI they would have a hard time rolling these updated over to tonegym. But I prefer that learning format most of the time. It is not perfect, but it is better.