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@Mark Tomato Alley is literally 2x faster than the whole lobby.What a beast!
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Benjamin Jack
Mar 04
Definitely!
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Ilija Nedelkovski (author)
Mar 04
I would actually like to see y'all how you perform irl.It is really inspiring to see all the impressive scores that are output in these contests!
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Can't wait for everyone to get better at the shortcuts and get destroyed! 😀 Honestly at some point it's a lot about knowing the keyboard, more than actually answering correctly, but still I find it to be a really good exercise to anchor these things in my brain as much as possible, as they don't feel natural to me (hopefully that can become a reality some day).
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Cuantas Vacas
Mar 05
Here I come! Nah, just kidding. I'll never reach those unreal figures of you, Mark!
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will ward
Mar 05
Have any keyboard shortcut users tried playing on their phones? Im just curious if using a keyboard is really much faster?
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Ilija Nedelkovski (author)
Mar 05
I do everything by phone-i get too frustrated with the shortcuts,but it is definitely way faster
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Benjamin Jack
Mar 05
Yes 10 fingers on a QWERTY keyboard can accurately put in a lot of answers in a minute. At this point it is 100% a lack of practice for my ears on this contest. I have only about three more instruments to complete my collection and then all of my earnings can go to contests again!
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Ilija Nedelkovski (author)
Mar 05
I get really mad when i say my answer in my head in less than a second and then proceed to press the wrong key XD,but it is what it is
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Ti Filimona
Mar 05
He truly is
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@Ilija Nedelkovski Oh yes, me too, it's very punishing. You also wouldn't like to press the wrong note when playing actual music. You wouldn't put you hand on the ground while at full speed on a bike, because it would hurt. So the fact that it is painful is probably the best way to unlearn a bad habit?
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Ilija Nedelkovski (author)
Mar 06
I wouldn't say it is a bad habit,but rather a lack of sensible reaction.I will often panic in finding the answer,and end up either pressing the wrong key,or asking myself what even is correct 😅
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For me besides not messing up shortcuts, is a question of reflex. I don´t think I have good reflexes even though I am quite successful at the sight reading. But I think I am that successful there because of my classical training as a pianist. I do think if I had better reflexes I could do even better. At some point you don´t really think about the answer but just about the right shortcuts. Another think that happens to me is that I let my eyes trick me faster than my ears and I just press the first random answer I see before even listening. :/
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Hehe yes, the same exact things happen to me! I have tried avoiding looking at the screen, but seeing it helps going faster.
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Dima G
Mar 10
i know i said differently in the past, but i actually changed my mind and don’t think it’s a matter of reflexes, you do need better ear (with respect to a task at hand) to score higher. i was trying to beat Mark yesterday at intervals with not much luck then i decided to try his advice to practice with the metronome: turns out these rates are much slower than my fastest reflex is. what slows me down is some of the intervals that take me more time to figure out than the metronome beat. with better uniformity across intervals it should be totally possible to score higher. so the reflex issue comes into play when you greatly speed up to catch up on intervals that you know really well.
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Ilija Nedelkovski (author)
Mar 10
I have noticed a weird behaviour in my mind that i'm really fascinated of,and i really found it out in the melody playground contest.I tend to process the notes so quickly,and yet the very same second,i forget half of them,and sometimes on twice the speeds it would be more likely to guess the answer correctly for me.A similar thing in the olympics,during the time i take to find the right answer on the screen,still a second in question,i forget what i listened to,and that leads me to making the dumbest mistakes eg. A perfect fifth is played ,and i press a m2.Would you by chance know what is going on,and how can i fix it?I atleast know i have short term memory loss 😅.
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@Dima G I think both are true at the same time, a solid ear and solid knowledge of the shortcuts are required at the same time. So yes, shortcuts memory is a bit useless, but the game also works on the other aspect at the same time.

Hey you can't beat me using my own advice, lol! (Just kidding, well done!)
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Benjamin Jack
Mar 19
@Ilija Nedelkovski Wait are you not using keyboard shortcuts??!
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Ilija Nedelkovski (author)
Mar 19
All phone buddy.I am starting to learn them just because of the sight reading competition
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can you kindly let me know where I can find information on keyboard shortcuts? many thanks
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Ilija Nedelkovski (author)
Mar 19
as long as i know,there is only on olympics,but i guess it applies on all of the contests-it is located right next to the timer left,as a little keyboard icon
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Benjamin Jack
Mar 19
@Maciej Jurynczyk Press the tab button while you are playing the game and it will show the keyboard shortcuts. Generally it starts from the left middle side of a QWERTY keyboard (eg. for inversions, root is a, 1st is s, 2nd is d, and 3rd is f)
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@Benjamin Jack thank you very much!
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calling up my inner semi-pro videogame reflexes and strong-headedness to master shortcuts