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Benjamin Jack
May 01
Does anyone else just get a good run and can hear all the subtle changes in the inversion then the next time you play struggle to get anything?
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Petr Hartmann
May 01
I do. I either get flawless run or end in first few rounds.
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Cuantas Vacas
May 02
All the time!
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Mark Alley
May 02
Same!
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Terri Winters
May 02
Same here - I've had get everything days & get nothing days. Right now I'm stuck in the same level for Rhythmania. Just cannot get one of the rhythms right yet. I just keep trying...
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Benjamin Jack
May 02
This seems to happen to me especially for inversions, as this competition is the only form of inversion practice I get so I am kind of glad to hear that it happens to others.😉
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I'm on level 40 in the inversionist and think that is where I'll be when I die. I basically just choose a random option most of the time. There must be some sort of a trick or a method to this that is completely eluding me...
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Terri Winters
May 03
I'm on level 14 and moving no where. Watching YouTube videos - still nothing...
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Mark Alley
May 03
You have to listen to the intervals between the notes, and know some music theory about triads and 4-notes chords. Then you will know that for major triads, for instance, hearing a fourth between the two lowest notes means it's a second inversion, and a fourth between the two top notes is a first inversion.

What I mean is, make sure you know what an inversion is and then make up your own system, but be precise and listen carefully, do not try to just guess because it sounds darker or lighter or something like that.

A major triad in first inversion just sounds to me like there are three notes, with a minor second at the bottom and a fourth on top.

You could argue that a major triad in first inversion sounds hopeful with a hint of sadness because of the fourth on top and the minor in the background at the bottom. And it probably does, but that's not what is going to help you know which are the right notes, because there are so many chords and ways of inverting them.
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Benjamin Jack
May 03
Basically what I mean is that sometimes I can hear the larger/smaller intervals and sometimes I hear nothing. Perhaps this just means that I need more practice, but it almost seems that 1 in 5 tries is way easier...IDK this is just what I feel.
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Mark Alley
May 03
You probably need more practice, give yourself time. Do Tonegym and other things, and in the future you will be able to do it :)

What motivated me at first is that I quickly saw that other people really could hear these things clearly and without ever making mistakes. So I was thinking, that means that everybody can learn it, so I will do it. Time is not the issue here, it's only a bonus if you can do it and you couldn't yesterday.

You can also learn many other things about music without doing ear training in the first place: play, compose, have fun in the meanwhile!
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Games like route IV, inversionist, and Chordelius are the last you master, route IV being the hardest for me. I’m lvl 100 in chordelius, and lvl 50 in inversions and route IV. You have to get good with harmonic and melodic intervals. When I’m playing the chord games I can hear every interval that makes up the chord which helps a lot
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Benjamin Jack
May 05
That is interesting I am level 150 in route vi and only 40 in both chordelius and departure being stuck in sus 2 and 4 (basically inversions). These are the three free games. I am mostly here for the community and contests, I rarely play the games.
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That is interesting, route. IV is my hardest game. Inversions aren’t that hard I can just hum out the chord intervals. I just haven’t played many games in inversions, I know I can get up to 80 at least if I sit and focus. The departure games I’m lvl 170. I can max those games out if I wanted too also.
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Dima G
May 06
@Lavelle Romain that's the main gripe i have with inversionalist and the way its structure makes you approach this exercise. route IV in my opinion is super tightly coupled with hearing inversions and identifying root notes for those inversions. so if inversions were taught to be heard in the right way, route IV would have been a piece of cake.