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John Bailey
Mar 25, 2024
Inversions might be the only time I can get on the leaderboard
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Benjamin Jack
Mar 26, 2024
I REALLY think this should be replaced with a bass clef(or similar) contest as it takes all of 1 min to memorize the tricks and it really now is just a contest of who has faster keyboard fingers, and is not a test of any musical skill. @ToneGym Community PLEASE!!! prop this to get to the eyes of the developers
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John Bailey (author)
Mar 26, 2024
You are not wrong. It's just pattern recognition
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Lavelle Romain
Mar 26, 2024
Pattern recognition is important. It’s like recognizing suffix like sh/ch/ tion. Or remember small phrases in English..
When reading music we know what we are looking at without having to read each letter.
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Benjamin Jack
Mar 26, 2024
@Lavelle Romain Yes, it is important however the patterns of inversions are extremely simple.

if one note on top not sus =1st inversion,
2 notes on top not sus=2nd inversion
all equidistant not sus=root
sus2 follows same 1st/2nd rules
and sus4 is really the only slightly hard one but just remember it as a 2nd inversion of sus2 and add from there (or just memorize its shapes.

Pattern recognition is better practiced at the other sight reading contests, What I am saying is that the inversions are so simple that someone with absolutely not musical knowledge with faster fingers and this trick will win. Training the bass clef or another treble clef contest would much better train MUSICAL skill. (if you play this a couple of times, you are about as good as you need to be for this.
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Lavelle Romain
Mar 26, 2024
Well I’m seasoned and I still have a bit to go to get really fast at it. I feel no matter how simple or hard something is, the idea is to become super fast at it. Because each technique plays a part in our development.
The advance practice inversions loose me every time 😂
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Benjamin Jack
Mar 26, 2024
Are you using the keyboard shortcuts?

I play advanced piano and intermediate guitar and violin and other instruments, but to play these, compose, jam, or transcribe, I rarely need to know the inversion of the chord, if I need to know I could analyze it, but that is a rate occasion.

I am not saying interval recognition is in any way bad! However it is easy to master (with the tricks shown in my previous post and keyboard shortcuts) and I believe something else would be better in the valuable sight-reading contest spot. (bass or other clefts perhaps on a rotation)

Another good possibility is for this contest to move on to advanced chords after getting 10 or so inversions correct.
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Benjamin Jack
Mar 26, 2024
I just played the advanced trainer for inversions and it is also relatively simple, however it at least is a challenge 14/20 for the first time I ever played it.
Just think of the root chord and imagine how the notes are moved around, then learn to recognize the shapes, and it gets easy.
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Lavelle Romain
Mar 27, 2024
Yeah, it’s easy for you but for me it’s challenging. So inversion triads are benefiting people that might find it hard such as my self. But I feel you🤜🤛
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Lavelle Romain
Mar 27, 2024
lol I’m using my i pad tablet , button prompts on the screen 😹
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Benjamin Jack
Mar 27, 2024
At the contest page you seem to be doing great! I think you have at least mostly mastered the simple inversions! If you can get that sort of a score you are probably as good as you will ever need to be for this in music and you can spend more time on other good things👍🎹💪
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Lavelle Romain
Mar 27, 2024
Yeah, I’ll spend time on other stuff and this, there all important.