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Alex Giddings
Mar 05
Reflexionem
''This meditative piece reflects on the eternal mystery of ‘what is true is beautiful and what is beautiful is good’. The simplicity of the text is mirrored in the pure tonality of D major and in the repetitive four-bar harmonic progression.''

Would I be correct in hearing said progression as | D | A/C♯ | B- | G A || ?

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Benjamin Jack
Mar 05
I get a video not available error from YouTube. (I am in the US if that makes any difference)
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Alex Giddings (author)
Mar 05
@Benjamin Jack Similar arrangement.

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Benjamin Jack
Mar 05
Thanks!
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Hey @Alex Giddings! Yes, that seems correct to me!

The third line is D | A/C♯ | B- | A | G | D/F# | e | Asus2 A |.

From G on we have a pattern mimicking the bass movement from the top with the 2nd inversion (inversions, again!!).

So the whole thing would be (exercise for myself):

I | V(c) | vi | IV V |
I | V(c) | vi | IV V |
I | V(c) | vi | V | IV | I(c) | ii | Vsus2 V |
Etc.

Which makes sense because I(c) and V(c) are inverted to get diatonic basses on the 3rd and 7th degree of the scale without using the weaker iii and vii° chords.
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(thank you for sharing this piece)
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Alex Giddings (author)
Mar 05
@Mark Tomato Alley I was initially (and incorrectly) thinking about a iii6/4 chord for the second bar: perhaps because a typically voiced V6 contains only perfect and minor intervals (e.g., C♯ to A = m6, C♯ to E = m3, A to E = P5, E to A = P4), and therefore has a confusingly minor sound to it.
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Benjamin Jack
Mar 06
Y'all are on a whole 'nother level! Props to you!
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@Alex Giddings Just noticing I got it wrong: all (c) are actually (b) in my answer (1st inversion), that's what I meant but I'm not used to notate these things.

As per what you are saying, I haven't been thinking about any other possibilities than the one that I wrote, because with my limited knowledge, I don't know of any other chord progression with the root note going down from the I to the vii which doesn't use the V(b).

So not knowing any more and noticing that it really sounds like the typical I V(b) vi made it very easy for me to guess. Also the V(b) has a very special sound and awakes peculiar emotions.

I have tried to play the I to iii(c) progression on my keyboard, it sounds a bit strange. Going from I to V is more straightforward.

@Benjamin Jack We're using a lot of complex words here, but I like to think that our feelings don't go through so complicated analysis, so as a simplification - you probably know that - it's all about reaching the V and going back to the I.

Also, if you want to learn something useful without spending to much time: learn to recognize the progression we're talking about, because it's literally everywhere: I V(b) vi, or even I V(b) vi IV V.

Take everything I write with caution - I'm learning too 😊
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@Alex Giddings I you have another song to decypher, I'd be glad to have another go and have a weekly quiz!
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Alex Giddings (author)
Mar 06
@Mark Tomato Alley Yeah, I to iii6/4 is most likely going to have either parallel octaves or parallel fifths, depending on the voicing (it also has a P4 against the bass, which doesn't help).
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Alex Giddings (author)
Mar 06
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Alex Giddings (author)
Mar 07
(By the way, @Mark Tomato Alley had better tell me his genre specialisation(s), so I don't accidentally give him something too hard.)
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Wow, I don't know, I don't have any specialization. But if by too hard you mean Chopin, or crazy jazz extensions, or atonal music, let's... give it a go ?! I can like any type of music, and I also like electronic stuff, so yeah, broad 😃 It would also be nice if we had more participants, so I you like, post your answers everybody!
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Benjamin Jack
Mar 08
I am in! As life is getting very busy for me though, I will do as I have time.
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Alex Giddings (author)
Mar 09
@Mark Tomato Alley @Benjamin Jack Gotcha: I can at least guarantee that the examples will make for beautiful (and not simply interesting) listening.
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Yes, I'm also quite busy. It could be every two or three weeks, also. Anyway, it will be
Alex's choosing. And of course there is no obligation to do it, even for Alex, it's just to have some fun and good practice on top of all the listening we're doing in here 😀