Try to play along with your instrument at first and then figure out the interval from that. Also try to learn how the different intervals feel.

have you tried a function ear trainer app? it really helps bootstrap this process and instill the right habits when it comes to working through interval recognition and relative pitch in general

You also might try memorizing tunes that have a particular interval like Happy Birthday for ascending major second; Hey Jude for descending minor third. Check on the toolbox at the top of the page it has an interval trainer. Good luck to you. Really -- keep trying; it gets better!

Plus 1 on Terri's advice. Write down a list of songs that you are familiar with for every single interval, both ascending and descending. You will find loads of suggestions by googling. Just make sure to pick songs that you are very familiar with, there will be more than one for each interval. And then don't be afraid to change out those songs in the future if they are not working for you. I had one song for a m7 for months but always struggled with it. It was only when I swapped it out for SHE CAME in through the bathroom window that it clicked for me and I haven't got it wrong a single time since.

@Dima G Which app or apps are you using?

it's functional ear trainer available both for iOS or Android.

i don't recommend using songs to memorize intervals, it develops bad habits, because even though the interval is the same, it sounds very different functionally depending on where it's located in that song's scale and also what scale is used there in the first place.

simple example: B-C sounds _very_ different from E-F in C major even though it's the same interval m2. and then G#-A in A harmonic minor is also different from those two.

i was getting nowhere with it till i started focusing solely on the functional approach.

Ah, thanks. Just realised I already have it :) The Politonus apps are quite decent as well in my experience. And yes, you are right, there are divided opinions about the melodic interval method. For me, I don't agree with the bad habits argument. All the *you've been doing ear training all wrong* videos on YouTube haven't resonated with me at all. For me it has worked perfectly. But I do agree that different methods suit different people and for some it is not the best way. As you suggest I think it's wise to try out different methods to see what suits your learning style.

@Hakon Sveinsson it's not that you wouldn't be able to recognize intervals in isolation, it's just that in real life you want to hear all scale degrees (with practice) immediately, without having to pattern match to other songs or go interval by interval between each two consecutive notes. it's like no additional thinking or brain strain required to see them. i know it's possible to get there with functional approach. i don't know if it is the other way, and if so — great.

i love politonus I, could even be better than the original app.

Absolutely. Reference songs are only training wheels to be completely ditched as soon as possible.

First thank you @Terri Winters @Dima G and @Hakon Sveinsson for the help! I have functional ear training(The Alain B method) and it has helped me a bit or it is one of the only things I have seen real progress in (My level is in the app Not-C major 87%).

I will also check Poltinus out, this one is new to me.

I will give this song idea another shot, for example, Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen the first verse has this P6 and P5 that I can hear in my sleep so that helps me out,

I also noticed that it plays before the interval an accending Bb major scale so this song could help me out!