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The tones for Melodix sounded really weird for me just now. I have no idea what instrument it was supposed to be, but it sounded more like signals from outer space or Morse code and it was really hard to tell what notes it was playing. I'm hoping this is a one-time occurrence and things will improve next time. I don't know if anyone else has experienced this, hence my throwing this out there.
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Colin Aiken
Nov 25
I can help you with the Morse code.
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Cuantas Vacas
Nov 25
It looks like a temporary malfunction, although I'd love to see you in action, Colin!
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Brian Blades
Nov 25
So it looks like they're finally allowing us to use different instruments other than the default piano sound, which is great! Do you remember which instrument you had it selected for? Maybe it was just one that you weren't used to hearing in Melodix? Or maybe I just haven't purchased the new morse code instrument option yet lol.
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Brian Blades
Nov 25
On a possibly related note, it might just be my imagination, but that 'Bekshtein' piano in Melodix seems to sound a bit different than it used to. Maybe a bit brighter or 'chimey' sounding. I hadn't played in a few days, so maybe I'd just forgotten what it sounded like? Not sure. Being at one of the higher levels where you're tested with polyphonic melodies (two notes at once) I thought I'd gotten pretty accustomed to the tonal characteristics of that piano being I've got to extract two notes out instead of just keying in on one, but now it seems that the top note is more distinct and the bottom note is slightly more difficult to identify. Not complaining here, just an observation. I mean in the real world, you're not going to be given perfectly clear instrument sounds that always sound exactly the same anyway. I'm sure I'll adjust. Just kind of curious if anyone else happened to notice this as well. And like I said, it could just be in my imagination..

But yeah.. finally having more instrument options to chose from is great!
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@brian. I didn't choose an instrument. I rarely think of that. Usually I get something random but, now that I think of it, maybe Melodix is always piano (?) I do think I noticed some different (perhaps improved) piano sounds on some games, but this thing didn't sound like a piano, plus there were weird overtones that made it hard to figure out what note they were supposed to be playing. It sounded maybe like one a very compressed audio similar to what you might hear on cheap mp3s, for lack of a better way of describing it.
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Brian Blades
Nov 25
@Catherine McKay ah, ok gotcha. Yeah, it certainly could've been a glitch. I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. I only mentioned it because when I recently played Melodix, I was quite surprised to hear an instrument other than that same default piano (which yes, up until just recently Melodix has always been only piano regardless of which instrument you selected) so it kind of threw me off at first to hear something different.
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@Catherine McKay: Melodix does NOT always use piano. It picks a random instrument, like other games, so if you don't explicitly pick the instrument, you might get one you don't like. I just confirmed this by going to the app entry screen and reloading it several times -- it had a different instrument checked each time I reloaded. I suspect if you explicitly pick the instrument you want (I always use piano myself), then your problem will go away.
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Brian Blades
Nov 25
@Victor Wilburn I believe she was referring to my original comment about how Melodix, until just recently, USED TO be just piano. So when you left it random, or even if you selected another instrument, it would still play back the piano. But yes, that has now changed and Melodix functions like all other games allowing you to pick from whatever instruments you have available.
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Cuantas Vacas
Nov 26
I think all the info all of you provide in your comments is probably right, as long as I know right now, after testing it myself.

I'm almost sure that Melodix didn't allow users to choose an instrument to play with, unlike the rest of games, when it came out (I was there, but I've been using Beckstein piano as my only instrument for TG since week 1, so I just have some vague memories about being surprised from this fact). Back then, the page didn't even show the standard list of instruments to choose from: you were forced to play with a certain piano sound with an annoying sustain time, what makes it hard to know which piano (Beckshtein, Bergson or Steinmay) was the sounds from.

I've recently read comments that led me to think that Melodix might be offering the standard list of instruments to choose from, but again I went with my own business and didn't check it out.

During the tests I have done minutes ago, I have confirmed @Brian Blades ' point: now you can play Melodix with any instrument you own. Then I've chosen the Vok keyboard and entered the game to confirm my suspicions about 'overtones' that @Catherine McKay described: I believe it's the SUSTAIN, present only in this game, that blends one note's tail with the attack of the next one, that's producing that effect that might resemble natural overtones depending of the adjacent notes' pitches. Do you think this might be the case?

Accidentally, I've noticed an improvement in the quality of the sound of those instruments I've tried today, compared to the time when I chose to ignore them for doing workouts (2 years ago some of them were unusable for any game involving stacked notes, and some were just annoying and therefore distracting).

I hope this helps! And it would also be nice to discard the alien thing...
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Brian Blades
Nov 26
Melodix has been one of my top two most played games since joining Tonegym, and probably my most played game over the past couple months. I've tried on numerous occasions to select another instrument only to have it play back the piano sounds once the game starts. So unless there was some sort of glitch on my account (and possibly others accounts) I am confidant in saying that previously, Melodix only allowed you to play the game with that piano sound (despite allowing you to select other instruments). I'd say this change happened over the past week or so.

Referring to my previous comment about change in piano sound. I just went to the 'Melody Trainer' area of the program (basically the same thing as Melodix but allows you to adjust the settings for 'practice') and I can confirm with 100% certainty that the piano sounds there are a different piano than the sounds I now get when selecting the 'Bekshtein' in Melodix (I'd always just assumed Melodix used the Bekshtein since that seems to be the default instrument here). I just purchased the 'Bergson' out of curiosity, and it's not that one either. So maybe it was the Steinmay that Melodix had previously played back before allowing you use different instruments? Not sure. My suspicion is that Melodix previously was not programmed in a way that allowed playback of different instruments, and possibly used it's own unique piano sound that was completely different from the other three available models. Basically it's own Melodix piano sound.

@Cuantas Vacas the sustain that remains hanging around once the next note plays is quite annoying and definitely makes the game more difficult. This is even more pronounced when one gets to the the polytonal/2 notes at once levels. For example, if one of the previous two notes was an F, and one of the next notes is a B, your ear is going to hear a tritone because that F note is still ringing out. Or if the next two notes are the minor interval A plus C, it will take on a major quality because that F note is still ringing out (thus making your ear hear an F major chord). This has definitely caused me to get a few answers wrong. I realize that in the 'real world' you're not going to get perfect separation of notes, so I guess it is what it is. But it would be nice if they could possibly eliminate the sustain thing here for training purposes. But that's a whole different conversation. I'd previously thought to bring this up on several occasions, but since you mentioned it in your comment, I figured I'd throw in my 2 cents..
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XIN
Nov 27
Melodix used to be available only with the default piano sounds. We've recently added the other sounds to this game, so you just need to pick which one you like :)
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Cuantas Vacas
Nov 27
Hello, @XIN 4tus ! You know that any useful hint, comment or help coming from you is greatly appreciated, don't you? I have to confess that when posts like this one start growing, the number of lines increasing exponentially, and everyone is making guesses about what has changed, when did it happen, and more and more topics arise, we all start lucubrating again, wondering why this or that works like that... I can't help imagining you somewhere up above, paying attention (I know you do) to what's been said, good or bad, to extract the info you might find useful...or maybe just to watch it all like a reality show, witnessing how close our guesses are, and how far can we get discussing on a point that's completely wrong or absurd. Until, of course, you decide to drop in and give us the 'right answer', so that everyone can stop and go in peace...That's what I call TRUE POWER!!!⚡

😁😉Well, maybe the 'tale' was a little too hyperbolic, but my imagination always makes tiny things grow gigantic in no time! I actually was about to add a few more words (or lines, or paragraphs;) about the 'default sustain' on Melodix, and also some about the game itself, because I believe it has a lot more of potential to allow users of any level develop a wider range of transcription skills...but I can't do it at this moment, so I'll do it tomorrow. Stay tuned!
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XIN
Nov 28
Ya'll are awesome! I get a lot of inspiration and ideas for improvement from your posts and comments