I'm having trouble with this exercise, especially when I try to replicate something like 4 notes per bit, but only subdivisions 2 and 3 are played.
Are you who are comfortable with this exercise relying 100% on feeling or do you have a more mechanical approach, like counting or something like that?
You need to be comfortable with subdividing the beat, first into eighths and sixteenths, but as the game advances, into triplets, quintuplets, and even septuplets. Once you have mentally ingrained what those things sound like and being able to count them, then it's easier to manage when beats or sub-beats are skipped (though I don't think I've ever encountered it skipping sub-beats of quintuplets and septuplets, and I'm at level 146).
Count-singing (e.g. 1-ee-and-uh 2-ee-and-uh, etc., for subdividing into 16ths) is always a good way to reinforce that sort of thing, and that can be done whenever you are listening to music. Count-singing while listening to music with funky rhythms that syncopate on a 16th-note granularity can be particularly helpful. The game does a lot of that sort of thing.
And then when actually playing the game, I try to reinforce auditory cues with visual ones -- e.g. I focus on watching the cursor advance, reinforcing the visual feedback of it crossing beat lines with the auditory feedback of the metronome and the beat itself. Engaging multiple senses helps with retention.
Hi all! I'm trying to wrap my head around how hearing melodies really works, would love to get your insights...
I'm an aspiring musician, my goal here is to be able to transcribe short ( 5 notes) melodies in a simple scale like pentatonic, instantly or near instantly.
I've been working on this daily for 6 months now, and I've reached another kind of roadblock.
First I got good at the interval trainer on tonedear.com, but realized this is a slow way to transcribe, because of the context switching: my interval songs are in a different key than the melody I'm transcribing.
Next I switched to scale degree identification. Using an app that sets up a tonal center with a short chord progression, and then plays a note from the scale. I sing back to the tonic and identify the scale degree. This took another 2 months but did help a bit. I'm still pretty slow though.
My question is... those of you who can do this, do you hear melodies as independent notes, where the scale degree pops into your head as soon as you hear it (2 1 3 or re do mi), or is more like hearing the notes relative to each other (one step down in the scale, two steps up).
This would help me decide whether to try to train more on recognizing melody shapes vs. more work on identifying scale degrees faster.
I've also heard one teacher recommend practicing to identify pairs of scale degrees in a tonal context, in essence developing a 2-note vocabulary internal database.
Sorry for the long post, I appreciate any feedback!
@Benjamin Jack but if I remember correctly you said before that you've been approved for a beta testing, am I right? I just made an account 😂. Or do you think I should try again?
Just wanted to post and say how much I'm really enjoying the ToneGym platform.
So much so that I started making videos recording my progress in the game (wins, losses, successes and failures). I've been posting snippets of them on my Instagram, Tik Tok and YouTube. One of the videos went viral and got 1M views!
This made me realize A LOT of people will have been waiting for a platform like this to exist, kinda like all of us here have wanted for a while. I've gotten a ton of comments and DMs asking what this platform is and how they can play.
I am thinking of expanding to live sessions of my daily workouts and taking some more time to explain the games and how I've grown through each game. (Would this be of any interest to anyone?)
But also: what other ideas do you all have? Whether you are new to the gym or a seasoned vet (I'm no Diamond Ears, but I'm listening, ha) I'm interested in knowing what you guys think I should show people that are just discovering the platform, or even you all reading this. What are somethings that you wanna know or see in long-form ear training videos??
I'll be posting the same thing in the Sound Gym community as the same thing applies, feel free to hit me up on either one! 😁
Happy training, everyone!
P.S. It would mean a lot if you all were to check out my IG page. This is the channel that's seen the most growth. I've also got a YouTube accnt where I'm planning the live sessions, and Tik Tok accnt but really those are more low key ha. (https://www.instagram.com/jayonline.wav/)
@John Bailey You're not kidding, I've got ppl everyday now asking me what the heck this game is 😅. Let me know what you think of the videos when you get the chance!
Oh I saw one of your videos with the rhythm practice and I'd been looking for something to practice my rhythm for a while and here I am! Thank you for those videos you posted! Wouldn't have found this website without you!
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