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ToneGym
Apr 30, 04:08 in Complete Music
Congrats @Gilles Bélanger for completing the 'Complete Music' program!
Congrats @Lavelle Romain for winning the Diamond Ears Award!
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Joe Maissel
Apr 27
A wonderful accomplishment. A lot of dedication. Way to go!
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Ken Wilkens
Apr 28
That’s huge - congratulations!
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Benjamin Jack
Apr 30, 02:13
Huge Congrats!!!
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gabriel beckett
Apr 29, 18:04 in ToneGym Cafe
prom weeks coming up wish me luck
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gabriel beckett
Apr 29, 18:21
👍
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Jadon Powell
Apr 29, 23:13
Skip prom, they'll play music 20 decibels too loud and ruin all your training. Stay home and study chord progressions instead 🗿
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ToneGym
Apr 29, 15:52 in Basic Music Theory
Congrats @al r for completing the 'Music Theory Basics' program!
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Kathy Anderson
Apr 29, 22:03
Good for you
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ToneGym
Apr 29, 07:24 in ToneGym Official
Congrats @Raymond Rutjes for winning the Diamond Ears Award!
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Scott Slotnick
Apr 29, 13:36
Nice!
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Manon Lardanchet
Apr 29, 21:52
so proud of you, as always
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Kathy Anderson
Apr 29, 22:03
Congratulations!
Can anybody please recommend any simple 1 4 5 songs to ear train on? I’m hoping that it will help me with Route VI. Thank you.
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Joe Maissel
Apr 29
Since you like 90s Alternative try Eddie Vedder/Neil Finn/Crowded House and/or Pearl Jam covering “Throw Your Arms Around Me”
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Victor Wilburn
Apr 29, 16:56
Many, many blues songs.
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Joe Maissel
Apr 29, 19:53
If you like U2, Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For is all 1 4 5 with a very straightforward structure.
Found a fascinating video about playing an instrument vs. hearing something in your head.

Basically it says, you play the way you hear it in your head.

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gabriel beckett
Apr 29, 14:33 in ToneGym Cafe
can we just stop-rewind
me chilling
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sick
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Cuantas Vacas
Apr 26
Emptiness is always a nice background to chill against
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gabriel beckett
Apr 29, 14:28
indeed
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ToneGym
Apr 29, 08:42 in ToneGym Official
Congrats @S Pal for winning the Silver Ears Award!
Congrats @al r for winning the Golden Ears Award!
Hi all! I'm trying to wrap my head around how hearing melodies really works, would love to get your insights...

I'm an aspiring musician, my goal here is to be able to transcribe short ( 5 notes) melodies in a simple scale like pentatonic, instantly or near instantly.

I've been working on this daily for 6 months now, and I've reached another kind of roadblock.

First I got good at the interval trainer on tonedear.com, but realized this is a slow way to transcribe, because of the context switching: my interval songs are in a different key than the melody I'm transcribing.

Next I switched to scale degree identification. Using an app that sets up a tonal center with a short chord progression, and then plays a note from the scale. I sing back to the tonic and identify the scale degree. This took another 2 months but did help a bit. I'm still pretty slow though.

My question is... those of you who can do this, do you hear melodies as independent notes, where the scale degree pops into your head as soon as you hear it (2 1 3 or re do mi), or is more like hearing the notes relative to each other (one step down in the scale, two steps up).

This would help me decide whether to try to train more on recognizing melody shapes vs. more work on identifying scale degrees faster.

I've also heard one teacher recommend practicing to identify pairs of scale degrees in a tonal context, in essence developing a 2-note vocabulary internal database.

Sorry for the long post, I appreciate any feedback!
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Dugal Smith
Apr 27
Thanks all. Very interesting posts.
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Mark Alley
Apr 28
I agree, very nice posts, thanks @Dima G