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Apr 19, 10:04 in ToneGym Official
Congrats @loyun kang for winning the Silver Ears Award!
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Terri Winters
Apr 19, 12:10
Congratulations - that's a major achievement!
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Kathy Anderson
Apr 19, 13:21
Congratulations!
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Colin Aiken
Apr 20, 03:42
Superb!
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ToneGym
Apr 19, 19:17 in Complete Music
Congrats @Chris Rogers for completing the 'Complete Music' program!
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Colin Aiken
Apr 20, 03:42
Fabulous!
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ToneGym
Apr 19, 20:00 in Complete Music
Congrats @Petr Hartmann for completing the 'Complete Music' program!
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Colin Aiken
Apr 20, 03:41
Fantastic!
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ToneGym
Apr 19, 21:16 in ToneGym Official
Congrats @Joe Maissel for winning the Diamond Ears Award!
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Terri Winters
Apr 20, 02:37
That is SO awesome -- has to take a lot of commitment to achieve that level. Congratulations!
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Colin Aiken
Apr 20, 03:41
Outstanding accomplishment!
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How to maximize and realize full potential of Route VI game for creating better chord progressions?

I want to take as much as possible from these games we have in TG, not necessarily progress in levels in them
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Dima G
Apr 19, 22:01
it's a compound exercise. if you sing roots and/or recognize individual inversions and top notes, it will go a long way. sometimes you might think, oh, i'm hearing a third scale degree (E in a key of C major), but the chord sounds more settled (the exact feeling is a personal thing), so it gotta be Am and not Em, but because i'm hearing E it means E is either the top note or it's an inversion of Am. then you listen to the same chord progression and sing A instead and try to recognize if it matches the chord more.

use the instrument to check yourself if you need to, but ultimately try to fizzle it out and do most of the checking in your head and with just voice.

this practice is hard, but i believe that's the only one to squeeze as much juice out of this exercise as possible. don't just rely on a general feel when identifying chord progressions, it's not very scalable imo.
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Terri Winters
Apr 20, 02:36
Route VI is a killer for me. I'm now capturing the answers (using the scale to the right of the screen) and playing the chord progression on the piano to try to recognize a V vs. a IV vs. a I. It's not obvious to me. I also tried using Chord Crush. I did OK in that game, but it didn't translate to ToneGym. I'm sticking with it, but it's one of the hardest exercises for me. Keep at it!
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james keller
Apr 20, 03:23
I’m experiencing a similar situation. Using chord crush as my main exercise tool, then proceeding to tone gym
Having trouble with Route VI
Will try singing notes
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Jon Sarjanen
Apr 19, 19:47 in ToneGym Cafe
Hello, I hope someone could help me out here a bit.

I have trouble recognizing intervals. It feels like I have been running a month in circles with some level-one exercises. Any help is appreciated :)
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Benjamin Jack
Apr 19, 19:53
Try to play along with your instrument at first and then figure out the interval from that. Also try to learn how the different intervals feel.
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Dima G
Apr 20, 00:28
have you tried a function ear trainer app? it really helps bootstrap this process and instill the right habits when it comes to working through interval recognition and relative pitch in general
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Terri Winters
Apr 20, 02:34
You also might try memorizing tunes that have a particular interval like Happy Birthday for ascending major second; Hey Jude for descending minor third. Check on the toolbox at the top of the page it has an interval trainer. Good luck to you. Really -- keep trying; it gets better!
Inversionist and Route VI for me today...oh, bother! I'm taking deep breaths.
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Terri Winters
Apr 19, 03:36
No, I actually couldn't do it today, but I did get the Inversionist. I'm not sure why this is so hard for me, but I've taken to capturing the screen so I can see the progression and play it on the piano. I'm not giving up!!! Thx for the encouragement.
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Anthony Andrulonis
Apr 19, 12:51
Every day practice is the key.

Keep at it. I does get easier.

Playing through progression is smart too.
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Terri Winters
Apr 19, 15:50
Thanks for the encouragement @anthony andrulonis. Daily practice is the key!
Congrats @Taisei Iso for winning the Silver Ears Award!
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Terri Winters
Apr 18
Great accomplishment -- keep going!
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Colin Aiken
Apr 19
Excellent!
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Kathy Anderson
Apr 19, 13:22
Congratulations!
Congrats @Ethan Montes for winning the Silver Ears Award!
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Terri Winters
Apr 18
Good for you! On to gold - congratulations!
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Colin Aiken
Apr 19
Well done!
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Kathy Anderson
Apr 19, 13:22
Congratulations!
Congrats @Gavin Shelton for winning the Silver Ears Award!
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Terri Winters
Apr 19, 03:37
That's great! On to golden ears - you've shown the commitment to make that happen.
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Joe Maissel
Apr 19, 04:35
And some beastly game numbers! 👺
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Kathy Anderson
Apr 19, 13:21
'Congratulations!
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Leandro Di Rosa
Apr 19, 08:08 in ToneGym Cafe
I'm having a hard time discerning sus2 and sus4 on chordelius. Any tips?
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Raymond Rutjes
Apr 19, 08:36
Same here, for now I'm trying to sing the major second from the bass note to tell if it's a sus 2, but still get it wrong. When I help myself with the piano it gets more obvious so I guess ultimately this will become simpler.
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Leandro Di Rosa
Apr 19, 10:12
Been doing exactly the same thing, either with the maj second or the perfect fourth. Still getting it wrong a bunch of times.
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Terri Winters
Apr 19, 12:10
Ditto - I find the sus2 higher note rings out for me and that helps a bit. Used to be so easy when there was only a sus4...